Doa V.S Uwsc (which for money) - Guild Wars Forums

below me · Jan 01, 2011, 06:55 AM // 06:55

I do T1 in Uwsc and currently have gotten 100+ ectos from it....

I'm getting bord cause im saving up for Ele Obi armor

I heard you can do Doasc also, and i was wondering which is better for money

considering Cash v. hardness

novawhiz · Jan 01, 2011, 07:18 AM // 07:18

DoA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UWSC

With a decent guild you can get at least 1 brace + drops a day. Much more consistent for money imo.

but then again imo, you dont SC for money

below me · Jan 01, 2011, 07:27 AM // 07:27

thanks! appreciate it ...more answers!

Saru The Boss · Jan 01, 2011, 07:51 AM // 07:51

DoASC= An armbrace every 3-4 runs (ish) (about 3-4 hours worth of work).

UW: T-Way= On average 2 Ectos every hour (no to mention the failure rate)... And IF you get lucky you'll get a CC or Mini Dhuum or something that changes the statistics, but anything decent drops so rarely that you shouldn't be farming in hopes of getting one of those items.

Zanagi Kazuhiko · Jan 01, 2011, 07:55 AM // 07:55

DoA handsdown....100k every 1hr-2hr.

Eisha · Jan 01, 2011, 11:36 AM // 11:36

DoA>>>> All other SC's, I did doa with some great guilds, one run in hm took from 30 - 45min, i farmed 2-3 braces ea day.

Coast · Jan 01, 2011, 11:55 AM // 11:55

doa sc(not crappy dwg build)

DigitalFear · Jan 01, 2011, 12:32 PM // 12:32

DoA, not the shitty DwG thing, but an actual speed clear.

Bright Star Shine · Jan 01, 2011, 03:15 PM // 15:15

Ok, I am in a DoASC guild, the #2 atm, untill we match Zraw's 24min, but I think we're getting there eventually.

You usually get 60k per DoASC run, which on a casual run can take anywhere between 40 and 55 minutes, depending on fails sometimes, or people lagging behind, dc's sometimes etc.

It should take you 3 runs to get an armbrace, on average, since you also should get some drops. And we do runs from about 8pm GMT+1 (sometimes earlier) until the late American hours, since we have a both European and American active member base. You can easily get an armbrace in 1 day, if you are active in the guild. I usually do 2-4 runs per day, depending on how much time I have. Having a bit of UWSC experience, I have to say I don't like it. It takes long, carries a very big fail rate, and can take very very long with the slightest fail.
In short: DoASC>>>>>>>...>>>>>>>UWSC for money. I think I've gotten like 1000e already from being in this guild, and that's from about end of august (was in Gingerbread first, then LOD and Gingerbread merged to get LOD??? end of september somewhere). So, I dunno how long you've been doing to get the 100e, but you'd have gotten the fivefold of it doing DoASC I think.

The most important part about DoASC is that you get a solid droprate, you know what you'll get. In UWSC you have the small chance of getting something nice..

Oh, and I'm of course also talking about DoASC in the real sense of the word. If you're thinking about DwG, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot or something, because that's about the feeling you'll get doing that.

impulsion · Jan 01, 2011, 04:38 PM // 16:38

1 DoA farm run = 1/3 armbrace = 8e (not including drops) in ~40mins in a fast guild or ~1hour in slower one.
1 UW run = ~3e (not including drops) in ~30min in fast guild or ~45min in slower one

DoA wins despite the appalling price of armbraces today. DoA also has several zbounties that you can get for extra cash.

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

Ok, I am in a DoASC guild, the #2 atm, untill we match Zraw's 24min, but I think we're getting there eventually.

Assuming we don't go lower than 24min ^^

Bright Star Shine · Jan 01, 2011, 04:43 PM // 16:43

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Originally Posted by impulsion

Assuming we don't go lower than 24min ^^

Meh, they'll find something to match it

And you know fissure wouldn't be able to sleep until he's matched you

And Mike's pride wouldn't let him be the lower one either

Also, we forgot Primeval Remnants. You should get ~15 until you stop getting any regularly, which will kind of force you to do mallyx again, so that's an extra couple ecto's you get too (I sell em for 1e ea, so) After you killed mallyx you get like 2-3/run, which will narrow down to 0-1 after like 5 more runs and eventually you'll stop getting any overall.

below me · Jan 01, 2011, 09:11 PM // 21:11

Thanks guys!

thinking about getting my monk to doa and being HB monk, think i should?

Bright Star Shine · Jan 01, 2011, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Since the private message you sent me I'd say don't run Frostway, it's not a SC, cause it doesn't involve speed..

A monk is good, a mesmer is mandatory and an ele for bonder, if you got those, apply to a DoASC guild and you'll get moneys in no time

Neponde Benito · Jan 01, 2011, 09:33 PM // 21:33

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Originally Posted by Coast

(not crappy dwg build)

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Originally Posted by DigitalFear

DoA, not the shitty DwG thing

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Originally Posted by Bright Star Shine

If you're thinking about DwG, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot

DwG is bad mmkay. It wont help you get into a good doasc guild either. I know when I am reviewing an app, experience in a real doasc helps, but i look for a lot more things than experience. Dont sell yourself short and go dwg.

below me · Jan 02, 2011, 03:53 AM // 03:53

So whud i do the doA heroway build?

Bright Star Shine · Jan 02, 2011, 11:40 AM // 11:40

You don't really seem to get it... There are ways of doing DoA besides DwG, you know.. And they aren't even difficult, they just require coordination. Guilds like ours and Zraw do DoA in casual runs anywhere between 35 (in Zraw's case) and 55 minutes. The average European runs with us lies somewhere between 45 and 55 minutes, because there are also a lot of new people who slow us down. Or just bad luck sometimes too. The American runs are more like 35-45 like Zraws's.

If you want to do real DoASC, I advise you get a mesmer, a monk and an ele to DoA, and make an assassin. The ssin doesn't have to go to DoA straight away, you won't be tanking any time soon anyways.

Don't be afraid that you won't be able to do it, there are people to teach you, and we take people without experience all the time. I do advise you to do at least a couple DwGs to learn your way around in DoA, because NEVER having been there isn't a good thing

Check this page for more info: http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_DoA_Trenchway (we run slightly different tactics though)

NerfHerder · Jan 02, 2011, 10:04 PM // 22:04

I would say even DwG or Heroway DoA is better money than UWSC, even if you help pay for cons. Finding a good SC group is even better.

kintook158 · Jan 20, 2011, 02:06 AM // 02:06

Hey im curious what is the best sc build could anyone please explain to me or post me a link to the team build thanks, Plus if anyone in a doasc guild looking for people ill jion i have had alot of exp with previous types of doasc thanks

Ghull Ka · Jan 20, 2011, 05:26 AM // 05:26

I am not one of the Guild Wars elite in this thread, and can't say that I've ever cleared DoA in 24 minutes.

But I have been involved in normal mode DwG or "Glaiveway" pugs and hard mode "Frostway" pugs (I usually do the ST role, it's lots of fun for me) -- and I have had success, fun, and tons of loot from the DoA groups that I've been in.

So, to counter the disdain in this thread for DwG-style groups, it's not all that bad. I've had a few fun afternoons doing these, and have 6 tormented weapons to show for it. Good times.

A11Eur0 · Jan 20, 2011, 10:03 AM // 10:03

Definitely don't need to run trenchway to get good money from DoA. DWG is popular, especially during zaishen bounties...and it's easy. It's not hard to get into a SC guild with the right game experience, but it's hard to be trusted enough to run a role in such an elitist-filled system.

Jan 01, 2011, 06:55 AM // 06:55	#1
below me Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2010 Guild: evil sounds Profession: N/Rt	Doa V.S Uwsc (which for money) I do T1 in Uwsc and currently have gotten 100+ ectos from it.... I'm getting bord cause im saving up for Ele Obi armor I heard you can do Doasc also, and i was wondering which is better for money considering Cash v. hardness

Jan 01, 2011, 03:15 PM // 15:15	#9
Bright Star Shine Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Belgium Guild: Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???] Profession: E/	Ok, I am in a DoASC guild, the #2 atm, untill we match Zraw's 24min, but I think we're getting there eventually. You usually get 60k per DoASC run, which on a casual run can take anywhere between 40 and 55 minutes, depending on fails sometimes, or people lagging behind, dc's sometimes etc. It should take you 3 runs to get an armbrace, on average, since you also should get some drops. And we do runs from about 8pm GMT+1 (sometimes earlier) until the late American hours, since we have a both European and American active member base. You can easily get an armbrace in 1 day, if you are active in the guild. I usually do 2-4 runs per day, depending on how much time I have. Having a bit of UWSC experience, I have to say I don't like it. It takes long, carries a very big fail rate, and can take very very long with the slightest fail. In short: DoASC>>>>>>>...>>>>>>>UWSC for money. I think I've gotten like 1000e already from being in this guild, and that's from about end of august (was in Gingerbread first, then LOD and Gingerbread merged to get LOD??? end of september somewhere). So, I dunno how long you've been doing to get the 100e, but you'd have gotten the fivefold of it doing DoASC I think. The most important part about DoASC is that you get a solid droprate, you know what you'll get. In UWSC you have the small chance of getting something nice.. Oh, and I'm of course also talking about DoASC in the real sense of the word. If you're thinking about DwG, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot or something, because that's about the feeling you'll get doing that. Last edited by Bright Star Shine; Jan 01, 2011 at 03:18 PM // 15:18..

Jan 20, 2011, 05:26 AM // 05:26	#19
Ghull Ka Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Guild: Grenths Helpdesk Profession: N/	I am not one of the Guild Wars elite in this thread, and can't say that I've ever cleared DoA in 24 minutes. But I have been involved in normal mode DwG or "Glaiveway" pugs and hard mode "Frostway" pugs (I usually do the ST role, it's lots of fun for me) -- and I have had success, fun, and tons of loot from the DoA groups that I've been in. So, to counter the disdain in this thread for DwG-style groups, it's not all that bad. I've had a few fun afternoons doing these, and have 6 tormented weapons to show for it. Good times. Last edited by Ghull Ka; Jan 20, 2011 at 05:28 AM // 05:28..

Jan 01, 2011, 07:18 AM // 07:18	#2
novawhiz Desert Nomad Join Date: Mar 2006 Profession: A/	DoA>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UWSC With a decent guild you can get at least 1 brace + drops a day. Much more consistent for money imo. but then again imo, you dont SC for money

Jan 01, 2011, 07:27 AM // 07:27	#3
below me Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2010 Guild: evil sounds Profession: N/Rt	thanks! appreciate it ...more answers!

Jan 01, 2011, 07:51 AM // 07:51	#4
Saru The Boss Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Texas Guild: We Gat Dis [HRUU] Profession: A/	DoASC= An armbrace every 3-4 runs (ish) (about 3-4 hours worth of work). UW: T-Way= On average 2 Ectos every hour (no to mention the failure rate)... And IF you get lucky you'll get a CC or Mini Dhuum or something that changes the statistics, but anything decent drops so rarely that you shouldn't be farming in hopes of getting one of those items.

Jan 01, 2011, 07:55 AM // 07:55	#5
Zanagi Kazuhiko Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Kamadan Dis 1 Guild: LF trolling/flaming guild, 8=D Profession: W/	DoA handsdown....100k every 1hr-2hr.

Jan 01, 2011, 11:36 AM // 11:36	#6
Eisha Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Kamadan AED1 Guild: Poo Pugs Plan [?????????] Profession: Mo/	DoA>>>> All other SC's, I did doa with some great guilds, one run in hm took from 30 - 45min, i farmed 2-3 braces ea day.

Jan 01, 2011, 11:55 AM // 11:55	#7
Coast Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Belgium Guild: Whats Going On [sup] Profession: Mo/	doa sc(not crappy dwg build)

Jan 01, 2011, 12:32 PM // 12:32	#8
DigitalFear Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: My mother's basement. Profession: Me/	DoA, not the shitty DwG thing, but an actual speed clear.

Jan 01, 2011, 09:11 PM // 21:11	#12
below me Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2010 Guild: evil sounds Profession: N/Rt	Thanks guys! thinking about getting my monk to doa and being HB monk, think i should?

Jan 01, 2011, 09:33 PM // 21:33	#13
Bright Star Shine Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Belgium Guild: Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???] Profession: E/	Since the private message you sent me I'd say don't run Frostway, it's not a SC, cause it doesn't involve speed.. A monk is good, a mesmer is mandatory and an ele for bonder, if you got those, apply to a DoASC guild and you'll get moneys in no time

Jan 02, 2011, 03:53 AM // 03:53	#15
below me Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Dec 2010 Guild: evil sounds Profession: N/Rt	So whud i do the doA heroway build?

Jan 02, 2011, 11:40 AM // 11:40	#16
Bright Star Shine Furnace Stoker Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Belgium Guild: Club of a Thousand Pandas [LOD???] Profession: E/	You don't really seem to get it... There are ways of doing DoA besides DwG, you know.. And they aren't even difficult, they just require coordination. Guilds like ours and Zraw do DoA in casual runs anywhere between 35 (in Zraw's case) and 55 minutes. The average European runs with us lies somewhere between 45 and 55 minutes, because there are also a lot of new people who slow us down. Or just bad luck sometimes too. The American runs are more like 35-45 like Zraws's. If you want to do real DoASC, I advise you get a mesmer, a monk and an ele to DoA, and make an assassin. The ssin doesn't have to go to DoA straight away, you won't be tanking any time soon anyways. Don't be afraid that you won't be able to do it, there are people to teach you, and we take people without experience all the time. I do advise you to do at least a couple DwGs to learn your way around in DoA, because NEVER having been there isn't a good thing Check this page for more info: http://www.gwpvx.com/Build:Team_-_DoA_Trenchway (we run slightly different tactics though)

Jan 02, 2011, 10:04 PM // 22:04	#17
NerfHerder Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2010	I would say even DwG or Heroway DoA is better money than UWSC, even if you help pay for cons. Finding a good SC group is even better.

Jan 20, 2011, 02:06 AM // 02:06	#18
kintook158 Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2010	Hey im curious what is the best sc build could anyone please explain to me or post me a link to the team build thanks, Plus if anyone in a doasc guild looking for people ill jion i have had alot of exp with previous types of doasc thanks

Jan 20, 2011, 10:03 AM // 10:03	#20
A11Eur0 Furnace Stoker Join Date: Apr 2005 Profession: W/	Definitely don't need to run trenchway to get good money from DoA. DWG is popular, especially during zaishen bounties...and it's easy. It's not hard to get into a SC guild with the right game experience, but it's hard to be trusted enough to run a role in such an elitist-filled system.